How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

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ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

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With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

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The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

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Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Pariatur et vero magni aperiam nulla.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

How can we become the best humans? How can we trust each other?

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

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ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

NOW…

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Sain (a barber)

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

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If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

What are women's true thoughts and feelings on bestiality?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

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I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

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Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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Why do many women in Turkey prefer to date blacks as a lover?

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

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CONCLUSION:

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

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Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

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— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

I am like a fish out of water,

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

then who is there to know what happens without?

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

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ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Now here in this verse

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

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ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Kabir (a weaver)

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||